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🗓️ 22 August 2025
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Welcome to The Times of Israel's newest podcast series, Friday Focus. Each Friday, join host deputy editor Amanda Borschel-Dan for a deep dive into what's behind the news that spins the globe.
This Friday, we present a third installment of our August mini-series centering on the 2005 Disengagement from Gaza, following a zoom-out conversation with public intellectual Dr. Micah Goodman and a personal account of life in Gush Katif by former Nezer Hazani resident Anita Tucker.
This week, we hear from Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, who shares the perspective of Palestinians within the Gaza Strip and the ripple effect felt there after the Disengagement.
Alkhatib, who left the Strip for the United States as a high school pupil in 2005, leads Realign For Palestine, an Atlantic Council project that challenges entrenched narratives in the Israel and Palestine discourse.
He is an outspoken critic of Hamas, who writes and speaks about Gaza’s political and humanitarian affairs at a variety of international media outlets.
We hear about Alkhatib's childhood in Gaza City and the few experiences he had with the Jewish Gush Katif residents. We learn about how, at age 17, Alkhatib became one of the first Palestinians to receive asylum in the US following the rise of Hamas in the Strip.
Alkhatib describes the seeds of Hamas and how it became emboldened through the tacit encouragement of Israel. Today, he says, the terror group is so entangled with the civilian population that uprooting it is virtually impossible without any other alternative on the horizon.
He looks back at the wasted opportunity of the Disengagement. "This is a thread that we had and could have grabbed onto and done something with," he tells The Times of Israel.
Friday Focus can be found on all podcast platforms. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves.
IMAGE: Palestinian police set up Palestinian and Fatah flags on top of a synagogue in the former Jewish settlement of Neve Dekalim in the southern Gaza Strip, September 12, 2005. (AP Photo/Emilio Morenatti, File)
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Times of Israel's Friday Focus. I'm your host, W.D. Editor Amanda Borsal Dan, |
0:07.0 | here with Ahmed Vood Al-Katib, who leads Realign for Palestine, which is an Atlantic Council project |
0:14.5 | that challenges entrenched narratives in Israel and Palestinian discourse. So Ahmed is an outspoken critic of Hamas who |
0:23.1 | writes and speaks about Gaza's political and humanitarian affairs all the time, everywhere. |
0:29.0 | And I so appreciate you taking time to speak with us today, Ahmed. |
0:33.3 | Thanks for having me. Delighted to speak to you. |
0:35.4 | So regular listeners of the Friday Focus will note that for the month of August, |
0:40.8 | I've been speaking with several different people about the disengagement, |
0:44.3 | 20 years to the August 2005 disengagement. |
0:48.3 | We started out with public intellectual, Mikha Goodman, |
0:52.2 | who did a Zoom-out conversation, what led up to the decision |
0:56.1 | to the disengagement from former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, et cetera, et cetera. Please check that out. |
1:02.4 | Last week, we had a former resident of Gush Katif, Anita Tucker, who spoke about life there |
1:08.4 | as a Jewish settler and how she yearns to go back. |
1:12.8 | And this week, with Ahmed's help, we're going to talk about the disengagement, |
1:17.6 | what happened in Gaza with the Palestinians leading up to disengagement and the ripple effect |
1:23.6 | that disengagement had after. |
1:26.3 | So all of this and more when we're back. |
1:33.6 | In this episode of Jewish Crossroads, I speak with Elon Goldenberg, one of the few |
1:38.3 | policymakers who has shaped U.S. policy on Israel across both the Obama and Biden administrations. |
1:44.6 | He reflects on the good decisions and the mistakes of the Biden administration during the war, |
1:49.6 | and he argues that 2026 Israeli elections could be a tipping point for the relationship between Israel and American jury. |
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