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🗓️ 26 July 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Welcome to What Matters Now, a weekly podcast exploring key issues currently shaping Israel and the Jewish World, with host Amanda Borschel-Dan speaking with leading economist Prof. Dan Ben-David.
Ben-David heads the Shoresh Institution for Socioeconomic Research and is a senior faculty member in the Department of Public Policy at Tel-Aviv University.
Earlier this month, he wrote an op-ed in The Times of Israel with the provocative headline, "‘Just not Bibi’ is not an action plan for a national pivot." In it, he lays out the need for a complete overhaul of swaths of Israeli society and institution -- and insists that this is the pivotal moment that it must be done.
“The demographic-democratic window of opportunity is closing at an exponential pace. This is the time for leaders who demonstrate that they grasp the gravity of this moment and what is required of them at the crossroads that we’ve now reached,” he wrote.
We drill down into Ben-David's vision for Israel 2.0 and its four cornerstones — educational overhaul, budgetary overhaul, a change in our system of government, and a constitution.
We also dive into the role that the ultra-Orthodox or Haredi community plays in implementing — or torpedoing — his vision.
And so this week, we ask Dan Ben-David, what matters now.
What Matters Now podcasts are available for download on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. This episode was produced by the Pod-Waves.
IMAGE: Ultra-Orthodox Jews gather at the gravesite of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai at Mount Meron during the Jewish holiday of Lag BaOmer, which marks the anniversary of the death of the Talmudic sage in Meron, northern Israel, on May 15, 2025. (Jalaa MAREY / AFP)
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Times of Israel's What Matters Now, a weekly podcast drilling into one issue affecting Israel and the Jewish world right now. |
0:11.3 | I'm your host deputy editor Amanda Borschel Dan here with Tel Aviv University economist Professor Dan Ben-Divide, the head of the Shorres Institution for socioeconomic research. |
0:24.8 | So, hi, Dan. |
0:25.7 | Thanks so much for joining me. |
0:27.5 | Hi, Linda. How are you? |
0:29.0 | I am well. Thank you so much. |
0:30.3 | And we're going to talk about a vision that you expressed recently in a Times of Israel op-ed, |
0:35.9 | a vision for Israel 2.0, and it's four cornerstones, |
0:40.2 | which are educational overhaul, budgetary overhaul, a change in our system of government |
0:46.2 | and a constitution. We're also going to dive into the rule that the ultra-Orthodox or |
0:51.9 | the Haredi community plays in implementing this vision or actually |
0:56.0 | could be torpedoing it. So all of this and more when we're back. |
1:05.8 | In a powerful series of interviews in this season of legends among us, Rabbi Benji talks with |
1:14.4 | young widows in their 20s who lost their spouses in the current war in Israel. |
1:20.6 | Ordinary people that were so extraordinary that most of us never realized it until we couldn't |
1:26.9 | help but recognize it. And so in |
1:29.6 | 24, Tafshin Pai Dalit, I invited seven of these legends to have an open and honest conversation, |
1:37.0 | to reflect on the loved ones they lost, go back to the moment when they found out, and ask them |
1:42.7 | how they're currently grappling with this |
1:44.9 | incredible loss while it was still fresh. |
1:48.2 | So much has happened since. |
1:50.2 | But the freshness of these conversations is crucial as their gaping hole can never be filled. |
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