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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

David Rutherford Show: Trump Legalizes Ibogaine - Navy SEAL Tommy Aceto On Why This Changes Everything

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics, News Commentary

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

On April 18, 2026, President Trump signed an executive order that opened the federal door to psychedelic therapy for American veterans — and the man who's been fighting for that breach for seven years sits down with David today.

Tommy Aceto is a former Navy SEAL medic of 16 years who lost his trident, his marriage, and access to his children in the same window — and rebuilt his life through ibogaine therapy. In this episode, you'll learn how one dose can erase opioid withdrawal in hours, why the vagus nerve is the missing link in PTSD treatment, and how Tommy, Marcus Capone, Morgan and Marcus Luttrell, Shawn Ryan, and Bobby Kennedy Jr. quietly built the coalition that just changed federal policy.

David and Tommy break down the legislative fight in Tennessee and Kentucky, why Big Pharma is racing to shut this down, and what every veteran, first responder, and family member needs to do right now to push their state to act.

Tommy Aceto is a former Navy SEAL medic, founder of Hope Project, and one of the lead advocates behind the America for Ibogaine coalition.

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00:00 – Trump's Executive Order Changes Everything
03:00 – Tommy Loses His SEAL Trident, His Marriage, and His Kids
07:30 – What Ibogaine Actually Is and Where It Comes From
13:00 – Why This Is Different From Every Other Psychedelic
17:00 – The Vagus Nerve: Why Thinking Can't Fix a Feeling Problem
25:30 – ⚡ "One Dose. Seven Years Sober."
30:00 – The Mission Within and the SEAL Healing Pipeline
38:00 – Brian Hubbard, Rick Perry, and the State-by-State Fight
46:00 – Big Pharma's Game: Why They Want This Locked Behind FDA Doors
52:00 – Shawn Ryan's Testimony in Tennessee
57:30 – What You Can Do This Week
1:03:00 – Tommy's Final Word🇺🇸 Hope Project / Tommy Aceto: [LINK]

This conversation breaks down ibogaine therapy for veterans, the Trump psychedelic executive order, the Tennessee Hope Treatment Act, and the SEAL community's seven-year fight to open this medicine to American warriors.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed Human.

0:03.8

On April 18, 2006, President Trump signed an executive order that basically breaches the door for the U.S.

0:12.4

federal government to begin exploring the positive impacts of psychedelics on veterans and other people with mental health crisis.

0:20.6

Today, I welcome Tommy Aceto, former Navy SEAL medic of 16 years on to tell you what he's been doing while leading the charge in Tennessee and around the country with psychedelics.

0:32.6

Today on the David Rutherford Show.

0:44.0

Thank you. David Rutherford show. Tommy, what's up, brother?

0:45.5

Welcome to the show, man.

0:46.7

I got to tell you, there's not a lot of shows that I get so excited for, but this is one, man.

0:55.7

After our phone call a couple weeks ago, I have not stopped thinking about you.

1:01.1

And then what's crazy is this just been the series of amazingly positive things for us,

1:07.5

for veterans, for the study of psychedelics, just one after the other.

1:11.9

Thanks for being here and just give us a quick,

1:14.1

like how you're feeling right now.

1:16.7

Overwhelmed, gratitude, just pure gratitude,

1:22.6

just like it hurts.

1:26.8

You know, as a breacher, you know this.

1:30.0

It's a kinetic operation.

1:31.6

And when one thing goes, it goes fast.

1:33.9

And I knew this was coming.

1:35.5

We've been setting this up for, I've been working on this for seven years.

1:39.8

I think about maybe 10 or 11 years in the SEAL teams, we started doing these treatments.

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