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Impolitic with John Heilemann

David Plouffe: “I’d (Still) Rather Be Us Than Them”

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

John is joined by Obama 2008 and 2012 campaign guru and Harris 2024 senior strategist David Plouffe to assess the state of the presidential race two weeks out from Election Day. Plouffe explains why he believes his candidate has a higher ceiling and more appeal to the remaining pool of persuadable voters than Donald Trump; how most of the public polling you're obsessed with is so worthless that he doesn’t even look at it; what he’s seeing in the early vote data that buoys his optimism; why reports of Trump's exhaustion and last-minute scheduling disruptions suggests that “something really funky” is going on with him; and yet why Democrats should be ready for an extremely, nail-bitingly, uncomfortably close election outcome. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Aloha and Namaste day everyone and welcome to impolitic with John Hyalman, a Puck and Odyssey joint featuring fresh topical candy conversations with the people who roam,

0:15.1

the corridors of power to influence in America, from Washington to Wall Street, Silicon Valley,

0:19.3

Hollywood, and beyond shifting and shaping the warp and wept of our politics and culture.

0:24.3

As we sit here exactly two weeks from election Eve, the tension is mounting, the fever is

0:30.0

spiking, and the sporadic fits of full-blown panic are erupting among

0:35.0

hair-triggered Democrats across the country many of them reacting by which I

0:39.4

mean over-reacting to every flutter in the polling averages regardless of how

0:43.7

statistically insignificant they are for how predictably irrelevant they are or to

0:48.9

cable news chiron's designed precisely to scare the shit out of viewers,

0:52.8

or to random and frequently apocryphal anecdotes

0:55.0

peddled by friends and foes alike,

0:56.8

or worst of all, to tidbits gossip

0:58.8

or other stray gibberish,

1:00.4

the encounter in the foul-fedded digital cesspool, formerly known as Twitter, now officially called

1:06.2

X, but more accurately described as Elon Musk's Global Bot Farm and Personal Clearinghouse of

1:11.6

Misinformation, Disinformation and pro-Trump propaganda.

1:15.0

And yet in the face of all that, Kamala Harris's campaign for president remains cool, calm, and collected,

1:20.0

and decidedly upbeat, while at the same time never sounding Polyanish or spouting mindless happy talk.

1:26.2

The reasons for that collective disposition are many for sure, but no small part of it

1:31.2

derives from the presence at the commanding heights of the Harris campaign of David Plough.

1:35.4

Among the most accomplished and respected political operatives of his or any generation

1:39.8

whose renowned derives from the integral and indispensable role he played in electing and then re-electing

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