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“David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence” – with the former CIA Director & 4* General

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary David Petraeus (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter, LinkedIn) to discuss his strategic analysis of the war in Ukraine. General Petraeus is a former Director of the CIA. What You’ll Learn Intelligence General Petraeus’ appraisal of the situation in Ukraine What victory would look like for each side What role intelligence is playing in the War General Petraeus’ time as Director of the CIA  Reflections The power of narrative Organizational culture *EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE* Episode Notes David Petraeus was CIA Director between September 2011 and November 2012, and prior to that had a 37-year career in the U.S. Army, rising to its highest rank of 4 star General. Are you curious to hear an in-depth strategic analysis of the Ukraine War from one of the most talented American officers of his generation? Would you like to know more about his time as CIA Director? Listen in to find out. Quotes of the Week "This is the first war with smartphones, internet connectivity, and social media, such as we see here. It was not present before. even really in the Iraq and Afghanistan war, certainly not to this scale. so that is a dramatic change…It also gives a degree of transparency to this war that I don't think has ever existed before." – David Petraeus. *EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE* Resources  SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)  Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)  Irregular Warfare & Intelligence with IWC Director Dennis Walters (2023) Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023) The 75th Anniversary of the CIA with Former Director Robert Gates (2022) *Beginner Resources* 5 Things You Should Know About the War in Ukraine, UN Refugee Agency (2023) [Short article] What Caused the Ukraine War?, J. S. Nye, Harvard Belfer Center (2022) [short article] A History of Ukraine in 5 Minutes, Sky News (2014) [5 min video] Putin’s War on Ukraine, Explained, Vox (2022) [8:48 min video] *EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE* DEEPER DIVE Books Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, D. Petraeus & A. Roberts (Harper, 2023)  The New Makers of Modern Strategy, H. Brands et al. (Princeton University Press, 2023)  The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine, S. Plokhy (Basic Books, 2017) Primary Sources  Petraeus Testimony on U.S. Middle East Policy, Senate.gov (2015) Petraeus Confirmation Hearings to be Director, CIA, Senate.gov (2011) Petraeus Military Retirement Speech, American Rhetoric, YouTube (2011) Petraeus Confirmation Hearing, ISAF and U.S. Forces Afghanistan, C-SPAN (2010) The American Military and the Lessons of Vietnam, David Petraeus, DocumentCloud (1987) [Petraeus’ Ph.D. dissertation] *EXTENDED SHOW NOTES & FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE* *Wildcard Resource* General Petraeus was known for the counterinsurgency approach he implemented in Afghanistan and Iraq – sometimes called The Petraeus Doctrine. You can implement your own counterinsurgency by playing a board game developed by former CIA analyst Volko Ruhnke - A Distant Plain: Insurgency in Afghanistan.

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Hello dear listeners. Today I want to share and recommend a podcast that I recently became a fan of,

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and I think it's worth your time, and you should check it out.

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The show is called Compiler, and it's produced by the folks at Red Hat.

0:28.0

The subtitle for the show is simplifying tech for tomorrow's IT leaders, and the show certainly does that,

0:34.0

but it does a lot more. I'm getting ahead of myself.

0:37.0

The reason Compiler has earned a regular spot on my podcast playlist is the genuine authentic curiosity of the show's hosts,

0:46.0

Angela Andrews and Brent Simano. Angela and Brent are your guides for journeys into all sorts of tech topics that are relevant to folks in cybersecurity and IT,

0:56.0

and they do it in a way that's casual and conversational, but also smart and concise.

1:02.0

This is a show that respects your time while feeding your curiosity.

1:06.0

And Compiler has something for everyone, doesn't matter if you're just getting started in your tech career or if you're a seasoned pro,

1:13.0

I'm willing to bet that you'll find the Compiler podcast both entertaining and informative.

1:19.0

So check it out. It's the Compiler podcast from Red Hat. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts.

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Welcome to Spycast.

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Brought to you from the home of the world's preeminent collection of intelligence and espionage-related artifacts,

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the International Spy Museum. I'm your host, Dr. Andrew Hammond, the museum's historian and curator.

1:52.0

Every week, we explore some aspect of a vast ecosystem that looms beneath the surface of everyday life, coming up next on Spycast.

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The reality that Russia confronts, which is, at some point, a realization that this war is unsustainable,

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it's unwinnable that the casualties which are already many, many times in just the first year and a half or so.

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It's been a long and winding road 17 years back into the midst of podcast time called 2006.

2:33.0

Our guest is David Patreus, former CIA director, four-star general and commander of US forces and Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Episode 600 is also the first of a five-week spy chief special.

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