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Sinica Podcast

David Ownby of ReadingtheChinaDream.com on the intellectual mood in China

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with David Ownby, the University of Montreal historian who runs the excellent ReadingTheChinaDream.com website — a trove of translations of writings by mainstream Chinese intellectuals. David talks about the website’s mission and about tells about his recent three-week trip to Beijing and Shanghai, in which he met with many of the people he translates on his site. Many of them are profoundly disillusioned with the leadership’s handling of the end of Zero-COVID, he found.

03:38 – Genesis of the project Reading the Chinese Dream

09:32 – The choice of intellectuals being translated

14:11 – An overview of common ideological denominators for the New Confucians, the Liberals, and the New Left.

24:19 – The emerging groups as a direct response to certain phenomena happening in the West

25:58 – How did we fail to understand the intellectual life in China?

30:30 – An overview of David’s recent trip to China

35:12 – How does the post-COVID reality in China affect Chinese intellectuals?

45:34 – Are we observing a turning point in the intellectual community and its relationship with the Chinese government?

47:41 – The attitudes of Chinese intellectuals towards the U.S.

56:04 – Will the negativity currently observed among Chinese intellectuals a temporary or enduring issue?

A complete transcript of this podcast is available at TheChinaProject.com.

Recommendations:

David: Ties by Domenico Starnone, translated by Jhumpa Lahiri

Kaiser: The Thirty Years War: Europe's Tragedy by Peter H. Wilson


Mentioned:

Translating Myself and Others by Jhumpa Lahiri

Simplicissimus by Johann Grimmelshausen



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0:00.0

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0:15.4

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0:22.5

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0:27.4

We've got reported stories, essays and editorials, great explainers, and trackers, regular columns,

0:34.1

and of course a growing library of podcasts.

0:37.4

We cover everything from China's fraught foreign

0:39.3

relations to its ingenious entrepreneurs, from the ongoing repression of Uyghurs and other

0:44.2

Muslim peoples in China's Xinjiang region to Beijing's ambitious plans to shift the Chinese

0:49.5

economy onto a post-carbon footing. It's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a

0:55.8

nation that is reshaping the world. We cover China with neither fear nor favor. I'm Kaiser Guo,

1:02.3

coming to you from Chapel Hill, North Carolina. If you've been listening to this show for a reasonably

1:07.8

long time, odds are that you've heard me and probably heard some of my guests on the program

1:12.5

lament the lack of attention given in Western media outlets to what might be called

1:18.0

mainstream intellectuals in China.

1:20.7

Not surprisingly, the fact that they don't garner much coverage means that knowledge of

1:25.5

and familiarity with them and their ideas, their

1:27.7

convictions, their attitudes is very much lacking in the reading public in the West.

1:32.8

If you are a regular reader of news about China, odds are, you know quite a bit about

1:37.1

official ideology and you have a pretty good exposure to the thought of dissident or

1:41.4

critical intellectuals. But unless you go looking for it, you're unlikely to be presented with the thinking of those

1:48.7

in between who are, I would assert, really the most important when it comes to getting a read

1:54.4

on overall attitudes in China, at least among educated elites.

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