One rule I say is wash for the hair you have, condition for the hair that you want.

So if you want very full, bouncy curls that are big, don't use a heavy moisturizing conditioner.

Hi Kirby. Hi, Sarah. Welcome to Los Angeles. Welcome Glamgelinos.

We hope you stay a while.

That's cute.

It's been a minute since we've talked to a hairstylist on this pod or had anyone come on who is an expert in hair.

So this is very exciting.

Yes, it is. And it's the one and only David Lopez.

David Lopez. I feel like this has been a long time coming too because you guys go way back.

Yes. David is, you'll hear. You'll hear in the interview. We talk about it.

David's been in the industry for so long.

They worked on so many incredible celebrities' hair like Chrissy Teigen, Ashley Graham, Kristen Stewart, Haley Biba.

The Biba.

They've also worked with so many of our favorite hair care brands, like T3. Yes.

And Kenra professional. Correct. And now they're creating incredible content on their own, some of like the

most entertaining and serviceable hair content, I think, on social. But what I'm really excited about is, well, two things.

One, the fact that David has gorgeous, naturally curly hair.

And in our almost three years of existence, we like haven't had a curly hair expert on.

I know.

Apologies to our curly-haired listeners.

Slap us with a ruler.

Slap us on the wrist with a ruler.

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