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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

David Einhorn - The Long and Short of Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.322]

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Colossus

Technology, Business, Investing

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

My guest today is David Einhorn. David is the President of Greenlight Capital, a long-short hedge fund that he co-founded in 1996. He is a prominent value investor with a reputation for rigorous security analysis. In 2002, he revealed a short position in Allied Capital, which was ultimately proven correct and similarly in early 2008, he told the Sohn Conference he was short Lehman Brothers. Over his near three decades managing money at Greenlight, he has delivered impressive returns but it has not been without challenge. Our conversation covers both the highs and lows, his views on the current banking issues, and how he has evolved as an investor. Please enjoy my great conversation with David Einhorn. The Sohn Conference 2023 Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.  ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus, the modern research platform for leading investors. I’m a longtime user and advocate of Tegus, a company that I’ve been so consistently impressed with that last fall my firm, Positive Sum, invested $20M to support Tegus’ mission to expand its product ecosystem. Whether it’s quantitative analysis, company disclosures, management presentations, earnings calls - Tegus has tools for every step of your investment research. They even have over 4000 fully driveable financial models. Tegus’ maniacal focus on quality, as well as its depth, breadth and recency of content makes it the one-stop, end-to-end research platform for investors. Move faster, gather deep research to build conviction and surface high-quality, alpha-driving insights to find your differentiated edge with Tegus. As a listener, you can take the Tegus platform for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Show Notes (00:03:50) - (First question) - Why he is glad he started his fund in 1996 rather than today (00:05:58) - His view of how companies’ personnel and goals have changed since the 90’s (00:07:01) - His counter-momentum approach to markets and how he views current trends (00:11:17) - The jelly-donut theory of monetary policy (00:14:46) - His outlook on inflation and the Fed from a fiscal perspective (00:16:48) - The evolution of Greenlight’s portfolio and philosophy through history (00:20:11) - Periods in his career that stand out as the most challenging (00:25:58) - How tech advances have influenced his core concept of figuring out worth (00:28:17) - His three-step process to picking investment targets (00:29:10) - The companies he has learned the most from studying (00:30:52) - His experience with investing in Apple (00:33:33) - How he considers the notion of quality in a business (00:35:05) - His views on shorting, concentration, and holding periods (00:38:37) - What he learned from a deep dive on airline businesses (00:40:31) - His perspective on sports franchises as an asset (00:42:12) - His new interest in poker and how he got so good at it (00:45:22) - Applying traditional valuation styles to the modern market (00:47:13) - Cultivating relationships with his limited partner investors and his team (00:54:26) - His perspectives on the insurance space (00:57:33) - The health of the economy and financial infrastructure as he understands it (01:01:51) - How he thinks about housing and the construction industry (01:03:54) - How AI and other high-tech are affecting his investment decisions (01:05:28) - Other topics on his mind, from national politics to social psychology (01:08:22) - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

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This episode is brought to you by TIGAS, the modern research platform for leading investors.

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I'm a long time user and advocate of TIGAS, a company that I've been so consistently impressed with that last fall my firm, positive sum, invested $20 million to support TIGAS's mission to expand its product ecosystem to unify and streamline investor research processes.

0:19.0

In addition to the library of 55,000 transcripts, TIGAS now combines at-cost on-demand calls with a full suite of financial workflows.

0:28.0

Whether it's quantitative analysis, company disclosures, management presentations, earnings calls, TIGAS has tools for every step of your investment research.

0:36.0

They even have over 4,000 fully-driveable financial models.

0:40.0

TIGAS's maniacal focus on quality, as well as its depth, breadth, and recency of content makes it the one-stop end-to-end research platform for investors.

0:49.0

Move faster, gather deep research to build conviction and surface high-quality alpha-driving insights to find your differentiated edge with TIGAS.

0:56.0

As a listener, you can take the TIGAS platform for a free test drive by visiting tegas.co-slash-patrick.

1:03.0

For a transition to the episode, I want to highlight the Founders podcast, which is part of our Colossus Network.

1:08.0

David Sanra, who hosts Founders, has devoted his life to learning from history's greatest entrepreneurs and every week he distills the lessons of a different founder.

1:16.0

If you want an entry point, I highly recommend starting with episode 136 on Estay Lauder or episode 288 on Ralph Lauren.

1:24.0

I host a David on Invest Like The Best Last Summer and it's hard not to walk away insanely energized after listening to any episode with him.

1:31.0

You can find a link to Founders and those episodes in the show notes of this conversation.

1:35.0

You can also search all past transcripts on our website, Join Colossus.com.

1:40.0

Hello and welcome everyone. I'm Patrick O'Shaunasey and this is Invest Like The Best.

1:48.0

This show is an open-ended exploration of markets, ideas, stories, and strategies that will help you better invest both your time and your money.

1:56.0

Invest Like The Best is part of the Colossus family of podcasts and you can access all our podcasts including edit the transcripts, show notes, and other resources to keep learning at Join Colossus.com.

2:08.0

Patrick O'Shaunasey is the CEO and founding partner of Positive Sum and the CEO of O'Shaunasey Asset Management.

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All opinions expressed by Patrick and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of Positive Sum or O'Shaunasey Asset Management.

2:25.0

This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions.

2:31.0

Clients of Positive Sum or O'Shaunasey Asset Management may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast.

2:38.0

My guest today is David Einhorn. David is the president of Green Light Capital, a long short hedge fund that he co-founded in 1996.

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