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Woman's Hour

David Carrick sentencing, Shamima Begum story, Danielle Deadwyler, Carmel McMahon

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Former Police Officer David Carrick will be sentenced this morning. BBC correspondent Helena Wilkinson joins Nuala. Shamima Begum left the UK in 2015. Now, for the first time, we have a better idea of what she might have been doing in the four years between then and her re-appearance in a camp in Syria in 2019. We know that she has married an IS fighter, had three children and lost three children in the last eight years – but what else happened? Nuala McGovern is joined by the BBC’s Josh Baker, host of the podcast I’m Not A Monster: The Shamima Begum Story and Dr Gina Vale, a lecturer of Criminology at the University of Southampton who specialises in terrorism. Danielle Deadwyler's extraordinary portrayal of the civil rights activist Mamie Till-Mobley in Chinonye Chukwu’s Till (2022) has earned her a BAFTA nomination for Best Leading Actress. The film tells the true story of Mamie’s pursuit of justice after her 14-year-old son, Emmett Till, was tortured and lynched in 1955. Danielle joins Nuala McGovern to discuss grief, Mamie’s legacy, and the ongoing fight for civil rights. As low-slung trousers come back into fashion and high-waists are all the rage we ask how fashion, age and generation determine where our trousers sit and how we feel about it. Hannah Rogers Assistant Fashion Editor for The Times joins Nuala. In 1993, aged twenty, Carmel Mc Mahon left Ireland for New York, carrying $500, two suitcases and a ton of emotional baggage. It took years, and a bitter struggle with alcohol addiction, to unpick the intricate traumas of her past and present. Carmel has now written a book, In Ordinary Time: Fragments of a Family History. Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Lucinda Montefiore

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:05.0

Hello, this is Nulam Agavren and you're listening to the Woman's Hour podcast.

0:09.9

Hello, you're very welcome to Woman's Hour.

0:11.9

Now I have a conversation with the actress Danielle Deadwiler to bring you this morning.

0:17.0

Her performance in the film Till about the lynching of a 14-year-old boy has been called

0:22.3

Oscar Worthy.

0:23.3

But as you may know, she did not get nominated for best actress nor did any black woman

0:28.5

in that category and it caused an uproar.

0:31.8

So we're going to speak about that.

0:33.6

But also what it took to emotionally and physically recreate the character of maybe

0:40.0

Moby Moby Till, that is the mother of Emmett Till, and also how that woman's actions

0:45.4

ignited the civil rights movement in America.

0:48.5

Also this hour, you might see in many of the papers today, the TV pick off the day is

0:53.5

the Shemima Begum story and what a story it is.

0:57.8

The 15-year-old London school girl, as you'll remember, went to Syria to join the Islamic

1:02.1

State Group.

1:03.1

She's now 23, living in a camp in the north of Syria, with 20 questions about what her

1:08.8

future holds.

1:10.6

Well, Josh Baker, he has met her, he's from the BBC and he's been following her story

1:14.6

since 2014.

1:15.6

He'll be with us as will Dr. Gina Vell, who studies radicalization.

1:21.6

Instead to immigration.

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