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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

David Baran and Kazuhiko Shibata – Friendly Activism in Japan at Symphony (Capital Allocators, EP.176)

Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry

Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert

Investing, Capitalallocation, Business

4.8806 Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

David Baran and Kazuhiko Shibata are the co-founders of Symphony Financial Partners, a twenty-year old Asia-based manager of $1.3 billion in assets. Symphony focuses on deeply undervalued companies in Japan, with a long-bias, constructive engagement strategy to work closely alongside willing management teams to see intrinsic value reflected in the share price.
 
Our conversation covers their early careers in Japan, the country’s employee first, shareholder last culture, the resulting disconnect of corporate activity and share price, and the formation of Symphony to invest in the few companies willing to close the gap over time. We then walk through their investment process, including the challenges of taking advantage of what appears incredible value on paper, offering friendly advice as a key component of due diligence, conducting research, and structuring portfolios. We close with a discussion of corporate governance and the necessity of a long-term perspective to thrive in Japan.
 
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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Ted Sides, and this is Capital Allocators.

0:10.1

This show is an open exploration of the people and process behind capital allocation.

0:16.3

Through conversations with leaders in the money game, we learn how these holders of the keys to the kingdom allocate their time and their capital.

0:25.0

You can keep up to date by visiting Capital Allocatorspodcast.com.

0:31.9

My guests on today's show are David Barron and Kazuhiko Shibata, co-founders of Symphony Financial Partners, a 20-year-old

0:40.2

Asia-based manager of $1.3 billion in assets. Symphony focuses on deeply undervalued

0:47.4

companies in Japan, with a long-bias, constructive engagement strategy that works closely alongside willing management teams to see intrinsic

0:57.0

value reflected in the share price. Our conversation covers their early careers in Japan,

1:02.9

the country's employee first shareholder last culture, the resulting disconnect of corporate

1:09.4

activity and share price, and the formation of

1:12.2

symphony to invest in the few companies willing to close the gap over time.

1:17.4

We then walk through their investment process, including the challenges of taking advantage

1:21.7

of what appears incredible value on paper, offering friendly advice as a key component of due

1:27.4

diligence, conducting research,

1:29.6

and structuring portfolios. We close with the discussion of corporate governance and the necessity

1:35.2

of a long-term perspective to thrive in Japan. Please enjoy my conversation with David Barron and

1:42.6

Kazuhiko Shibata.

1:49.1

David Shabata son, thank you so much for joining me.

1:50.8

Very good pleasure.

1:52.1

Good to see you.

1:59.6

So David, why don't you take me back to the beginning and how in the world you got to Japan?

2:01.3

That beginning. Wow. Actually, I got to Japan? That beginning.

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