From KCRW in Santa Monica, this is The Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell. Welcome to the treatment. You can also hear the show at KCRW.com.

My guest, producer, composer, instrumentalist, David Axelrod is an architect

of something new in music. He was the first R&B head of a major label at Capitol Records in the

60s. He produced records for Lou Rawls, of course, that are seminal and been sampled by everybody.

And in his astonishing work with artists such as Harold Land and his soulmate, Cannonball Adderley,

he was the creative of Jazz Fusion.

David, thanks so much for being here.

My pleasure.

Thank you for having me.

As we got started, I mentioned to you that I was a little kid.

And, like I said, to my embarrassment, bought these albums.

Why?

Because it's probably the first album by a white person I had ever even thought of it.

I grew up in Detroit, so bring home an album with a blonde white guy. You have no idea the kind of embarrassment.

So I got these albums and took them home and just playing them and got to House of Mirrors.

And it was a transformative experience for me, just hearing those drums like that and having never really heard anything

like that in pop before that was aware of.

And then I ran and grabbed my mother's lura halls out and put that on and played Love is a

hurting thing and heard those drums and heard that time.

And first of all, being aware of drumming that complicated and what was essentially for a lot

of people and loves a heard

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