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Because this, this is the one that I had mentioned earlier in the show that I mean the book press

schedule has been so incredibly overwhelming that I actually agreed to do an interview during

the show, which I thought could kind of be fun, especially considering who it is. It's a

day view all his podcast crushing it. I thought, you know, people obviously know Dave's podcast.

He's kind of carved out his own place in the podcast world. And man, I mean I started

thinking the first time I heard of Dave did, he was a creator and host of that shout-out network

very, very controversial show, Tough Now, where they got all these kind of like super macho alpha

males who were ambushed like literally under way to Tough Guy challenges and held an underground,

like they were restrained, held in underground bunkers, where they got all this like brutal

treatment until they admitted they weren't that tough. And it was what a spectacle that show was

Pat, do we have Dave on the line? Yes you do. Okay, Dave,

I want to welcome to the show Dave Youle. Hey buddy, I look full honesty. When your publicist

Sharon floated the idea of me interviewing you on your show, I have to say I was a little offended

considering the massive disparity in the size of our audiences and probably our junk. But

but then I thought you know this could be a cool idea pretty cool. You know kind of like the movie

inside a movie aspect in reservoir dogs, you know. The movie inside the movie aspect,

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