The Mike Tyson quote to me is always the favorite is everybody has a plan until I hit him in the face, right?

And your opportunity as a founder is to take your idea out and get hit in the face as many times as you can by customers.

And that's the difference between like, no, no, I know what the customer wants.

I would never write a check to a founder who has that disillusioned version of conviction, right?

So what I love about working with startup founders is every room I walk into wherever like I'm going to an event in Egypt

in October and you know, I'll go into a room of 100 founders and everybody knows 70 to 90% of them are going to fail.

And everyone knows it's not them, right?

Which is the thing that I love about founders. We're all just slightly delusional.

And I will say every idea is crazy right up before the minute it works, right?

But what you don't want to do is I think the culture of fail fast is really stupid.

I think the idea of chill bad ideas fast is super useful.

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Dave, welcome to the unmistakable creative. Thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

Glad to be here. Thanks for the invite.

It is my pleasure to have you here. So I found out about your work by way of your publicist who told me about your book startup trajectory,

which I just finished reading this morning, all of which we will get into.

But before we do that, I want to start asking you what did your parents do for a living?

And how did that end up shaping the choices that you've made throughout your life in your career?

You bad. So my parents were divorced when I was about seven years old.

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