The following episode of Broken Record contains language that is extremely grim and fernel,

cult, brutal, and just sort of negative in general.

My name is Malcolm Gladwell.

Welcome to Broken Record, where today we explore the dark world of black metal with Dave Hill,

guitar hero, metal enthusiast, spawn of the suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio, creative force

behind a seven inch, which taint anthology, the first 13 infernal years, and the forthcoming

sons of Midwestern darkness.

If you've never seen Dave's epic version of stairway to heaven with his 83 year old

dad on keyboards, by the way, you should probably drop everything and watch it now.

Today in a departure from my usual practice at Broken Record of doing thoughtful and sophisticated

interviews, we're going to go deep and tell the witch taint origin story, which involves

an extended encounter between Dave Hill's alter ego, aka the King of Black Metal Lance

from Gary Indiana, and then Norwegian black metal emperorio named Satan spelled S-A-I-I-T-A-M.

Also known as Matthias.

Why Norwegian?

Because Norway is to black metal, like Belgium is to chocolate.

What's the difference in the way one would play a guitar in a metal band and in a progressive

rock band or in an alternative?

Can you just give me a little tutorial on what it means musically?

You know, with rock, you can rock can be kind of whatever.

You know, or you can be like, you know, sort of, R-E-M-E, Djangely, Athens, or whatever.

I mean, we'll metal, all metal, if they're doing it right, starts with black Sabbath, of course.

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