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Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Dava Sobel: The Women Who Brought the Stars to Earth

Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda

Bobi NYC

Science, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Starting in the late 19th century, a group of women at the Harvard Observatory pored over hundreds of thousands of glass photographic plates bearing images of billions of stars. It was the beginning of a revolution in understanding what stars are made of and how far away they are.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Alan Olga and this is Clear and Vivid. Conversations about connecting and communicating.

0:15.8

Willamina Patton-Stevens Fleming. Was this Fleming if she was known around the observatory?

0:23.3

She had taken the main job because she was really in distress. She was a recent immigrant from Scotland.

0:33.3

She was pregnant. She was on her own. Pickering and his wife immediately realized that she was intelligent.

0:42.0

She had taught school in Scotland. So they just moved her into the observatory and taught her how to do the work.

0:49.7

But this was the first time people were using photographs of spectra to try to create a classification system for the stars.

1:00.4

Is it known how many stars she categorized? At least 10,000. And she published that about 1890.

1:08.4

That's David Sobel. Over the course of several books about the history of astronomy,

1:14.6

she's woven wonderful tales of people who made the discoveries that revolutionized our understanding of the heavens.

1:21.6

Her most recent book is not only Clear and Vivid. It also shines a light on the subject that I think is really important.

1:29.4

That the role that women have played in science is all too often ignored.

1:34.3

The book's title, The Glass Universe, refers to a collection of hundreds of thousands of photographic glass plates.

1:42.0

They revealed new information about stars that a group of women in the late 19th century played a key role in interpreting.

1:52.0

This is so great to be talking with you because you do something so wonderful in the book The Glass Universe.

1:58.8

You hooked me on the characters and what was happening in their lives as people.

2:04.9

And then I cared about their achievements even more.

2:08.6

Oh, thank you. I think that's so important, especially with a complex subject to realize that the people doing that work

2:18.7

are just people. They have love lives. They have problems. There's an old sense of scientists as people who are just

2:27.5

interested in facts that that persists. Do you find that?

2:32.0

Yeah, it takes the blood and pain and anxiety out of it.

2:37.2

And there's a lot in it.

2:38.4

Kind of gives you the answers before you ask the question.

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