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Data Scientist Hilary Mason on AI and the Future of Fiction

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🗓️ 13 July 2025

⏱️ 17 minutes

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A view from the intersection of AI and creators. Rich Lumelleau and Data Scientist Hilary Mason discuss: - How her company Hidden Door uses generative AI to turn any work of fiction into an online social roleplaying game. - Whether Napster is a fair comparison. - What the future of storytelling could look like. Host: Rich Lumelleau Guests: Hilary Mason Engineer: Dan Boyd Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, "TMF") do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I think the future of entertainment looks really different and that it actually doesn't matter where the idea begins.

0:08.0

That's Hilary Mason, the co-founder and CEO of Hidden Door, they use generative AI to turn any work of fiction into an online social role-playing game.

0:21.6

Our Rich Lamello talks to Mason about all that this entails, including their Pride and Prejudice

0:28.1

adaptation, and parallels to Napster.

0:34.6

And let's kind of jump in where we are today. As I mentioned at the top, you're the CEO and the co-founder of Hidden Door.

0:43.3

Tell us about Hidden Door.

0:45.3

Tell us about, you know, kind of the thought process behind starting it, what it does and what your role is there.

0:50.3

Yeah, so what we do at Hidden Doors, we partner with people who create worlds through movies, books, TV shows, or online communities, all of that really wonderful world building energy.

1:03.0

And we create ways for the fans to role play in those worlds. We do use AI and machine learning to make that possible, and our fans get to come in,

1:14.0

create their own characters, and sort of roleplay their own stories with a really light stat system,

1:21.6

where they get challenged, surprise, they get to be creative, and it's all within the rules of the world, the rules of the IP.

1:29.3

And if there are characters from those worlds that appear,

1:33.3

we enforce all the rules around how those characters ought to behave.

1:37.3

So this is a way for fans to sort of fanfic as a game.

1:43.3

Stay excited about the thing that they love. I don't know about you,

1:47.3

but when I finish reading a book, I usually have 20 different ideas for different plots or

1:52.5

corners of that world. I would have loved to explore. And to really do that in a way that reinforces

2:00.5

and supports the authors and creators they admire.

2:04.6

That's what we do at Hidden Door, but there is a long, long story about how we got here.

2:10.8

Love to hear it.

2:12.2

Absolutely.

2:12.8

That was question number two I have for you.

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