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Data Centers, Icy Moons And Chameleons

Short Wave

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Daily News, Nature, Life Sciences, Astronomy, Science, News

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🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

It’s another news roundup! This time, we cover how, using data analytics – and ironically, some AI – a team at Cornell University has mapped the environmental impact of AI by state. They determined that, by 2030, the rate of AI growth in the U.S. would put an additional 24 to 44 million metric tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The team further calculated that by 2030, AI could use as much water as 6 to 10 millions Americans do every year. All of this, they conclude, would put the tech industry’s climate goals out of reach. This episode, we also get into the potential for life on one of Saturn’s moons and a new discovery about why chameleons’ eyes are so special. 


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0:46.6

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

0:52.1

Hey, short waver is Regina Barber here.

1:14.2

And Emily Kwong with our biweekly Science News Roundup featuring the host of All Things Considered. And today we have one of our favorites, the amazing space nerd, Scott Detrow. I'm back. I'm here. I'm thrilled. I assume we're going to talk space. Otherwise, I'm leaving. But what other stories? First, we're going to talk about AI and the kind of the energy crisis there in, broken out by state.

1:30.0

Then... to talk space. Otherwise, I'm leaving, but what other stories? First, we're going to talk about AI and the kind of the energy crisis therein, broken out by state. Then we're going to talk about how scientists are learning more about an ocean moon of Saturn. And finally, after going to space, we're going to come back to Earth to talk about chameleons and what makes them so weird and cool. Okay. These are two joyous, interesting things and one, existential downery thing.

1:31.2

So I can, I'll take that ratio.

1:31.7

Sounds about right.

1:32.1

Excellent.

1:51.4

You're listening to get to space.

1:53.5

But before that one, where do you want to start?

1:57.5

Let's, since it seems the least joyous, let's start with AI computing.

2:02.8

We talk a lot about AI these days, and there's a lot of concern about the power it's sucking up. Yeah, it truly. A lot of AI computing relies on data centers. Data centers are

2:08.4

these big buildings which gobble up gigawatts of energy, sometimes millions of gallons of water

2:12.8

for cooling. And as tech companies try to make good on AI's potential, there is an energy

2:17.3

crisis in the making.

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