Darrin Patrick, Pastors, and Pride with Barnabas Piper

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Christianity Today

Religion & Spirituality, Religion, Christianity

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🗓️ 21 April 2016

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Last week, Darrin Patrick, vice president of the Acts 29 church planting network and founding pastor of The Journey megachurch in St. Louis, was fired. (Read CT’s story.) Among the Reformed pastor’s offenses: “domineering over those in his charge,” “misuse of power/authority,” and “history of building his identity through ministry and media platforms.” TL;DR: pride. The son of uber popular Reformed pastor John Piper and author and blogger in his own right, Barnabas Piper joined Quick to Listen this week to offer his perspective to this thorny and recurring issue. “With the internet being what it is, local church ministry is no longer local church ministry,” says Piper, pointing to the number of pastors who publish books, host their own podcasts, and maintain an active social media presence. “Pride is an occupational hazard for all of us: if you have a byline, if your name is on a book, or you have a podcast, it comes with pride.” Here’s Piper’s chat with Morgan and Katelyn about what may make Acts 29 leaders prone to arrogance, what a pastor’s kid thinks other pastor’s kids are thinking after their parent messes up, and the circumstances under which a pastor should be restored. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This episode is brought to you in part by The Apologetics Guy Show, the podcast that helps you find clear answers to tough questions about Christianity.
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0:20.6	Music Michael Del Rosario at Apologeticsguy.com.
0:31.2	You're listening to Quick to Listen, the Christianity Today podcast where we go beyond hashtags and hot takes and set aside time to explore the reality behind a major cultural event.
0:36.6	I am Caitlin Beatty. I'm the print managing
0:38.5	editor of Christianity today. And I'm joined as always by my lovely co-host Morgan Lee. Hi, Morgan.
0:43.9	Caitlin, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you? Hey, everyone. It's great to be here again for
0:49.2	another episode of Quick to Listen. I'm an assistant editor at Christianity today, and I am pleased to say that
0:55.9	today we are joined by another big baseball fan. He's also a Twins fan, by the way. And also someone I
1:01.4	interviewed back in the day, we are with Barnabas Piper. He works at Lifeway in leadership development.
1:08.9	He also is the host of a couple of podcasts himself. He is an author.
1:13.4	And one of the books that he has written is called The Pastor's Kid, which is actually about the
1:18.0	experience about being John Piper's son. You may have heard of him and may be a reason why he is
1:23.7	joining us today. Barnabas is also a blogger and writes a lot about faith and sports and culture
1:31.9	as well. So great to have you on the show. Yeah, I'm really happy to be here. Thanks for asking me.
1:36.6	And I was accused recently of trading on my father's name by an angry online person. So I guess I'll
1:42.6	just continue the trend on this podcast and just use
1:45.8	that name to my advantage. Yeah, we just want to make that person online even more angry.
1:51.5	That's right. Confirm all their bias. Absolutely. Well, thanks so much for joining us. So as our
1:56.6	listeners know, most controversies in our world come with complexity and tension. And each week
2:02.1	we set aside time to just acknowledge those attention and tensions and work out as best as we can
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