Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. I have the distinct pleasure of sitting today

with Iona Italia, who shortly will become editor-in-chief of Aureo Magazine and is the author

of our Tango World. Did I get that all right, Iona?

It was perfect, yes.

Well, welcome to Dark Horse.

Thank you so much, Brett.

So this conversation is one I have wanted to have with you for the longest time, and you

and I in fact discussed the possibility of us having this conversation must be a couple

of years ago now at least, maybe two or three.

I think only maybe a year and a half.

A year and a half? Well, my wife is constantly telling me that I have a matroscious sense

of how much time has passed. She's often nicer when she says this, but my interpretation

is that I am very bad at figuring out how much time has passed. But in any case, I'm really

glad that you're here. I have been reading your book. I won't say I've read it all, but

I am fascinated by it in a way that I was not expecting.

And so maybe if you'll allow me, I'll just say a few words about where I am with respect

to something like Tango, and I'll catch the audience up on what conversation I'm hoping

will have. So I have a little experience with partner dancing. Mostly it comes from the

fact that partner dancing is obviously still a very big deal across Latin America, and

I did graduate work in Central America. And so I encountered this and I did enough dancing

to sort of know what it's about. I wouldn't say I'm any good at it, but good enough to have

had the experience and sort of see what the potential is there. And it has caused me

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