Hello, welcome to the theology podcast. It's great to have you here for this episode. I'm

C. R. Wiley and in case you are listening to the show for the first time, let me tell you a little bit about myself. I'm a pastor, I serve a church

in the Pacific Northwest, I've written a number of books. My latest book is

entitled in the House of Tom Bombadil, working on a book on totalitarianism entitled Satanist

Sate Anthony's Guide to Your Best Life Now.

Anyway, that's a, and I'm a senior editor, Touchstone magazine, and that's relevant because

of the subject that we're going to be addressing today, but anyway, we'll get to that in a minute.

Tom, how about you?

I'm Tom Price, I teach Systematics. get to that in a minute. Tom, how about you?

I'm Tom Price.

I teach systematic theology, Christian ethics, philosophy,

and a variety of other things.

One of the places is Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. I see you've got your Oxford shirt on there.

I do, yes.

When we went, I made sure to bring a few reminders back

of the hard labors that I did in that wonderful atmosphere.

Right and before too long our documentary is going to be available so we've seen the

you know the the kind of the last cut before the final draft.

Yeah, it's looking great it's going to be a must see.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, Glenn.

I'm Glenn Sunshine. I'm a retired Renaissance and Reformation historian, Professor Emeritus at

Central Connecticut State University. I'm increasingly spending my time

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