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The Megyn Kelly Show

Dark Brandon Tries Again, with Andrew Klavan, and COVID Origins Deep Dive, with Dr. Alina Chan and Dr. Robert Garry | Ep. 426

The Megyn Kelly Show

SiriusXM

Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.632.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2022

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly begins the show with a deep dive into the origins of COVID-19 - was it from a lab leak, or from nature? On one side is Tulane virologist Dr. Robert Garry, who discusses why he says science points to COVID-19 originating from nature, the importance of the furin cleavage site, what was actually happening at the Wuhan lab, the experimentation with gain-of-function research, why Garry originally said it was not natural then changed mind, his personal conversations with Dr. Collins and Dr. Fauci, why he believes the wildlife market caused the "spillover," and more. Then Dr. Alina Chan, molecular biologist and MIT and Harvard scientific advisor, joins to discuss why she says science points to a leak from the Wuhan lab as the origin of COVID, what the reversal by scientists shows, the lack of transparency about the process, why Fauci and Collins would have wanted to clamp down on the lab leak theory, lack of evidence for both natural and lab origins, China's ongoing blame game, scientific naivete, why there might be suppression of data that could tell us more about the origins, and more. Then Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show and author of "A Strange Habit of Mind," joins to talk Dark Brandon's MEGA MAGA speech, Biden counting on dominance over our information, the changing media landscape to bring more independent sources, White House's deleted tweet after they were flagged for misinformation, the Supreme Court hearing an affirmative action case, and more.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly show, your home for open, honest and provocative conversations.

0:07.0

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. Did you catch dark

0:15.7

brandens latest speech about the extreme mega-Republicans last night? It's like change.

0:20.4

It was extreme mega. It's ultra-mega, and now it's mega-mega, which I actually kind

0:24.5

of like, I like a iteration. It flows mega-mega, Republicans last night. He spoke to the American

0:30.5

people about the threats to democracy just days before Americans cast their ballots in

0:35.3

the midterm elections, and we're going to get into all of that when Andrew Cleven joins

0:40.1

us in just a bit of the daily wire. But we begin today with a deep dive on a hugely important

0:45.2

issue, and that is the origins of COVID. Did it come from a lab? Did it come from nature?

0:52.6

Have millions dead, got over a million Americans dead now, around the world, even more?

0:58.5

Not knowing is not an option, right? How is it that we can't have a definitive answer

1:02.9

by now? Today we have two scientific experts with us who have completely different points

1:07.7

of view on how it started. I'm going to be joined in a bit by Dr. Alina Chan, a molecular

1:13.1

biologist and scientific advisor at MIT in Harvard. She wrote a book on why she believes

1:18.2

the science points to COVID originating in a lab. But we begin today with Dr. Robert

1:23.9

Gary, a virologist from Tulane University who now believes from his research that COVID

1:29.2

did not originate in a lab, but instead came from nature, and he was somebody closely

1:34.6

in touch with Dr. Fauci at the beginning of this whole thing before Dr. Gary and others

1:40.2

published a piece in Nature magazine saying this looked like it had natural origins.

1:50.7

Dr. Gary, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. My pleasure. How are

1:54.6

you doing today? I'm doing great. All right. So let's just get into it because as I understand

1:59.2

it, the best case, and forgive me because I am not a doctor, but the best case for this

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