Hey everybody, welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast.

A conversation designed to help leaders go further, faster.

I'm Andy Stanley and today I will be your host because today I have my friend Cheryl Batch

Elder in the studio with me.

Cheryl last month you told us a little bit about your story.

You stepped into a very, very tough business environment.

You cast a very compelling vision as the brand new CEO.

They'd had how many CEOs in the past?

Four in the last seven years.

Four CEOs in the last seven years.

So there's a lot of skepticism.

They've heard the language before.

They heard a vision cast before.

You made some incredible decisions right up front that we talked about last month.

But you knew, you knew coming in it was going to take a bold move to make a difference.

So would you tell our listeners about this very risky decision that really turned things

around?

And the reason I think this is important for us is one of the things that all of us wrestle

with as leaders when it comes to risk is how much risk is too much risk.

There are personalities that are risk adverse and there are personalities that they need

to risk a day just to stay sane.

And when you talk about taking a big risk with a company, the size of Popeyes, this was

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