This is the Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Bachelors with my colleague, Michael Yon.

He is in the Darian province.

He's at the end of the Darian gap, the 60 miles of triple canopy jungle up and down

very dangerous, crossing rivers, flash floods, floods, lots of rain, his rainy season, and

the mud.

You must go up and down cliff sides in mud, and then cross rivers or cross the parts of

rivers that are extremely fast, very fast, a lot of rapids.

However, once you reach the Darian gap where Michael is now, you have a road forward all

the way to the Mexican border with the United States.

You have to travel by bus, by foot, by train, all the way through.

You keep passing through, but last this year, Homeland Security announced that there would

be an intention to reduce the flow of refugees to Panama Canal, at Panama Gap, at the Darian

Gap, and Michael indicated the center front was ready to, in some fashion, control the

border.

To my understanding, neither has happened.

Have you been updated, Michael, does Panama want to control the border?

Does the U.S. want the border control, the Darian Gap border?

I mean, it's clear that the U.S. is facilitating the invasion here through Panama.

I mean, it's amazingly obvious, I mean, there's emblems with our flag all inside these

camps, all over the place, I've made many photos, right?

I mean, we're clearly funding it, openly funding it.

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