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Remember when Donald Trump accused Kamala Harris of suddenly turning black and he said, so I don't know is she Indian or is she

black the confusion and suspicion biracial people are confronted with is the

theme of the novels and the memoir by my guest Danzy Senna.

She also writes about what it means to be biracial and the meaning of race itself.

Her mother who is white is from an imminent Boston family. Her father, who is black, grew up in an orphanage

in a small Alabama town. Her parents married in 1968, the year the Supreme Court overturned

all existing state laws that banned

interracial marriage. She was born in 1970 and grew up during the Black Power

movement. Her new novel, Colored Television, is both heartfelt and satirical.

It's about a writer who's devastated when the novel she's been working on for 10 years,

a novel about how the meaning of being biracial has changed over generations is rejected by her publisher.

If she can't publish that, she can't get tenure at the university where she teaches, which means not having enough money to get by.

Her husband is an artist whose work doesn't sell.

They have two children.

She's discovering that some of her son's traits that she thought made him unique and

interesting may be signs that he's

on the autism spectrum. The family lives in LA which they can't afford so they've

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