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Things Police See: Firsthand Accounts

Dannemora Prison Break - Charles Gardner

Things Police See: Firsthand Accounts

Steven D Gould

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2020

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Steve and Ken interview retired Lieutenant Charles Garnder of the New York State Department of Corrections.  Charles talks about his career as a corrections officer and gives a detailed account of the now infamous Dannemora prison break.  

Charles A. Gardner spent twenty-five years in the corrections profession in Northern New York, and began his training at Clinton Correctional Facility – also known as Dannemora.  He trained other corrections officers and watching the slow transformation of the prison system. His acclaimed book DANNEMORA: Two Escaped Killers, Three Weeks of Terror, and the Largest Manhunt Ever in Upstate New York (PB / March 2020) is a study of the now-infamous prison break (recently dramatically realized in the series Dannemora) which he illustrates in his hit book. 

Link to his book

https://www.amazon.com/Dannemora-Escaped-Killers-Largest-Manhunt/dp/0806539240

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0:00.0

This is Things Police See.

0:03.7

First Hand Accounts.

0:05.0

With your host Steve Gold.

0:08.0

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast.

0:12.0

With me as always Ken Roy Ball can how I yeah I like

0:18.0

the way you pronounced my name because it's proper you know I'm I'm still

0:22.2

upset at myself for not pronouncing it correctly for so long.

0:25.0

Well, at least you didn't call me rubble. I had used to have somebody call me rubble. Like Barney rubble from the Flintstones?

0:32.0

Bonnie rubble. Rubska. like Barney Rubble from the Flintstones? Bonnie Rubble.

0:33.3

Rub school.

0:34.3

Oh, you know, but I, yeah, it's okay.

0:36.9

I get the name somehow throws people off.

0:39.7

I don't know.

0:40.8

It's a big name.

0:41.7

It's not like an unknown name name that name is like there's a

0:44.6

Roybal building in downtown Los Angeles it's it is Los Angeles royalty it's your

0:50.1

building right I own it I I collect rent. It is cans. Yeah, well sir, today we have on

1:00.2

on Charles Gardner. He was 25 years in the correction system in in upstate New York and he

1:08.4

retired a judge and the really cool thing is he wrote a book about Danamora that famous now famous

1:16.4

infamous prison break that happened in 2015.

1:19.4

Yeah. They did a you know showtime series on it and I hear his book is really good. It's getting great reviews and it's called

1:27.9

Dana Mora, two escape killers, three weeks of terror and the largest manhunt ever in upstate New York so I want to try to

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