The last time we spoke with Danila Pierre Bravo, she shared her story of growing up undocumented, making her way through college, selling Mary Kay cosmetics, juggling

internships and odd jobs, and eventually landing a job at one of the busiest news shows in the

business, Morning Joe. Now, Danielle is back with a new book, her second, The Other,

How to Own Your Power at Work as a Woman of Color. And she's here to share her best advice

on how to navigate the loneliness of being

the other. We all know that well. And how to advocate for yourself when no one around you

sees you or gets you.

Danielle, hi.

Hi.

Danielle, tell me about a time in your own life when you have been made to feel like the other.

I grew up in a small conservative town and I'm a white Latina.

I can't say that I've ever had anything racist against me because of the color of my skin. But the big thing for me feeling like

the other is that I was undocumented. My biggest goal in high school was to go under the radar

because I didn't want anybody to even like have a hint that my family was like undocumented and that I was undocumented because I didn't want anybody to even have a hint that my family was undocumented and that I was undocumented because I didn't want to feel like the other.

And I remember a dinner that I was invited to in high school.

I had a boyfriend at the time and his family was really well known.

Ivy League, you know, educated, very, very different from my family.

Worked the nine to five job, really close family. You know, meanwhile, my family was like,

we'd be lucky to have a bucket of Lee's chicken at the end of the night and my parents were off

to the second shift. But I remember going in there, meeting the parents for the first time.

I walk into this Italian restaurant and I was like so nervous because I got so nervous when people asked about

my background. Everything was going well. We would go through the appetizers and then we had some

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