Species,

species, unite,

Unite. Species, unite.

Species unite. We don't know one case where a lion which was hand feeder or bottle feeder was released successfully in the wild. Of course if they have

if they see humans and they understand that humans is the connection to food it will be always

a danger to put those lines back in the wild.

And many of those companies use that as an pretty much excuse why this conservation project is important, but we don't think so and we don't know, we don't believe that of course.

It's in my opinion nonsense.

Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novigrats. This is Species Unite. We have a favor to ask if you like today's episode and you have a spare minute, could you please rate and review

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It really helps people to find the show. This conversation is with Daniel Call. He's the founder of Natuchate, an environmental travel company that works to build a safer more sustainable eco-tourism industry.

The eco-tourism industry has been hijacked by a lot of bad players and they're taking advantage of animal lovers and some of the animals that are suffering the most are lions. Hi Daniel.

Thank you Elizabeth for having us. Thank you very much.

Just say a little bit about who you are, what you do before we get into the lions.

Okay, cool.

And I'm the founder of Netukite.

And Netukate is a travel company that focus on offering educational and nature-orientated

experiences.

For example, volunteering internships or in general, nature travel.

And our mission is to promote sustainable and meaningful travel experiences that includes

white-loved conservation projects environmental education and we want to

provide opportunities for our clients to learn about conservation.

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