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That Trippi Show

Dan Gillmor on Journalism vs Truth, Role of Citizenry, Reporting on Lies

That Trippi Show

Joe Trippi

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Dan Gillmor, co-founder of Arizona State's News Co/Lab, is an expert on civil literacy and the role of journalism in our changing world. He joins the show to discuss the many changes to journalistic norms in the past few years and how to navigate a path forward. How should journalists cover politicians who intentionally and, sometimes dangerously, lie without consequence? What do former guardians of truth and once-trusted establishments still do their job when they're dismissed summarily by significant portions of the populace? And why was it so hard for journalists to just say, "Trump lied," instead of, as Dan says, using every other word in the thesaurus? Read the blog post Dan and Joe discuss here: https://medium.com/@dangillmor/dear-journalists-please-declare-independence-from-business-as-usual-fe8d3681f932 Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/that-trippi-show/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:42.0

Alex and I welcome Dan Gilmore to the show.

0:45.2

He's an American technology writer and columnist,

0:48.4

co-founder of NewscoLab, an initiative

0:51.0

to elevate news literacy and awareness at Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and mass communication and a good friend particularly as we sort of watch technology evolve over the years, someone I rely on for

1:08.9

his insight. And Dan, really, thanks for coming on the show today.

1:13.0

It's great to see you, and God, it's a long time we've known each other.

1:18.0

Yes.

1:19.0

Yeah, I was thinking back.

1:20.0

I was thinking back when you were, when we first kind of connected I think was when you were at the

1:26.0

San Jose Mercury news and it started I think the first web blog by a journalist of a mainstream, you know, media outlet in 1999.

1:40.4

And I remember reading that blog quite a bit, the e-journal, I think it was called, and that and other

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