From the ACLU, this is at Liberty. I'm Kendall Seasmeyer, your host.

Happy New Year. It's so good to be back with you. Often on at Liberty, we detail what is happening

in the field of civil rights and public interest law

from an issue perspective this week we're doing something a little different we're highlighting the

people behind that work specifically the contributions of women and non-binary people to the

movement of resistance law. Women weren't

always allowed to be lawyers. In fact, in 1873, the U.S. Supreme Court said that women had no

constitutional right to practice law. Thanks to women who fought back, that is no longer our reality.

And actually, it's quite the opposite.

Women are now seen, celebrated, and remembered at the highest levels of the practice. This

advancement is due to the work of hidden figures throughout history, like Polly Murray, for example,

who you'll hear more about today. We're sharing a conversation between two women

lawyers. ACLU's very own senior staff attorney, Gillian Thomas, is in conversation with Dahlia Lithwick,

legal journalist and author of the new book, Lady Justice. Together, they discuss Dalia's new book that traces the history of

women in law and highlights the work of women lawyers, most notably since 2016, who have taken

up the mantle to fight back against injustice that oppresses the most marginalized, and threatens

all of us. Dalia argues that in a constitutional democracy like our own, power is for the taking,

and that women have heeded that call and stepped into their arena to fight.

With that, I give you Jillian Thomas and Dahlia Lithwick.

I'm Jillian Thomas. She, her pronoun, senior staff attorney

with the Women's Rights Project. And it's my great delight to be joined today and in conversation

with my dear, dear friend, Dahlia Lithwick, who likely needs no introduction, but I'll dispense

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