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It Could Happen Here

CZM Rewind: The Green Hell: Migration Through the Darién Gap

It Could Happen Here

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics

4.06.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In the first of five episodes, James describes his journey to the Darién gap in Southern Panama, and the journeys that thousands of migrants take each week on one of the most dangerous land migration routes on earth.

Original Air Date: 10.28.24

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:06.0

CoolZone media.

0:16.0

The most difficult part of the journey is when you are trekking

0:20.8

and you meet

0:21.8

dead bodies on the road.

0:25.6

It makes you

0:26.6

weep. It makes you

0:28.7

cry.

0:31.1

But

0:31.6

there's only one focus in the forest.

0:35.6

A hurt.

0:36.8

You have to keep going.

0:39.8

You see mothers,

0:42.2

children,

0:43.6

they're crying

0:44.4

just to have

0:45.9

a sip of water.

0:51.6

It is not easy.

0:57.7

A few weeks ago, I found myself sitting beside the Tukesa River, on a warm afternoon in late September,

1:03.9

making silly faces at a two-month-old baby, as we both marveled at the cloud of yellow butterflies.

1:09.9

Anywhere else on earth, it could be an idyllic summer day, but in these final steps to the

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