CZM Rewind: Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals
It Could Happen Here
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4.0 • 6.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 December 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers.
Orignal Air Date: 9.9.25
Sources:
https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com
https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16
https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf
https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication
http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism
https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis
https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis
https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19
https://www.theargumentmag.com/about
https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/
https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.9 | Cool Zone Media. |
| 0:10.0 | Welcome to Akadap here, a podcast about a world on fire and how to put it out. |
| 0:16.3 | I'm your host, Mia Wong. |
| 0:18.8 | The world is fucked. |
| 0:21.5 | It's the one thing everyone agrees on. |
| 0:24.8 | In the vacuum of a defeated Democratic Party and a hideously unpopular fascist takeover |
| 0:30.0 | that is nevertheless on the march, |
| 0:33.0 | ideologies vie for the mantle of resistance to the fascist purge. |
| 0:38.0 | Zeran Mamdani's victory in New York represents a resurgent social democracy. |
| 0:42.6 | In the streets, everyone from liberals to communists to anarchists are fighting against ice and |
| 0:47.8 | the National Guard occupations. To get our bearings in the swirling vortex of ideology, |
| 0:56.4 | let us check in slightly further to the right, but still firmly in the grounds of liberalism on a new movement called abundance. |
| 1:03.1 | What is abundance? Brust into prominence by a book in March 2025, simply called |
| 1:10.6 | Abundance by Liberal stalwart Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, |
| 1:15.6 | who is slightly well-known, and futures people like Matthew and Glacius. |
| 1:20.4 | They argue that growth is good. They argue we should make more things. |
| 1:24.4 | They argue we should have bold visions of the future with, to quote Malcolm Harris's |
| 1:28.4 | description in the baffler, desalinated ocean water flowing from the taps, skyscraper farms |
| 1:34.0 | growing our food indoors, and quote star pills manufactured in space, clean air, and superfast |
| 1:41.7 | planes. Think big, think fast, solve problems by building more. |
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