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It Could Happen Here

CZM Rewind: Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals

It Could Happen Here

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Daily News, News, Politics

4.06.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers.

Orignal Air Date: 9.9.25

Sources:

https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com

https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16

https://archive.vn/zgPJ8

https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication

http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism

https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis

https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers

https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis

https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19

https://www.theargumentmag.com/about

https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/

https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/

https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters

https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:05.9

Cool Zone Media.

0:10.0

Welcome to Akadap here, a podcast about a world on fire and how to put it out.

0:16.3

I'm your host, Mia Wong.

0:18.8

The world is fucked.

0:21.5

It's the one thing everyone agrees on.

0:24.8

In the vacuum of a defeated Democratic Party and a hideously unpopular fascist takeover

0:30.0

that is nevertheless on the march,

0:33.0

ideologies vie for the mantle of resistance to the fascist purge.

0:38.0

Zeran Mamdani's victory in New York represents a resurgent social democracy.

0:42.6

In the streets, everyone from liberals to communists to anarchists are fighting against ice and

0:47.8

the National Guard occupations. To get our bearings in the swirling vortex of ideology,

0:56.4

let us check in slightly further to the right, but still firmly in the grounds of liberalism on a new movement called abundance.

1:03.1

What is abundance? Brust into prominence by a book in March 2025, simply called

1:10.6

Abundance by Liberal stalwart Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson,

1:15.6

who is slightly well-known, and futures people like Matthew and Glacius.

1:20.4

They argue that growth is good. They argue we should make more things.

1:24.4

They argue we should have bold visions of the future with, to quote Malcolm Harris's

1:28.4

description in the baffler, desalinated ocean water flowing from the taps, skyscraper farms

1:34.0

growing our food indoors, and quote star pills manufactured in space, clean air, and superfast

1:41.7

planes. Think big, think fast, solve problems by building more.

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