The scale and sophistication of cyber attacks are rising exponentially, but so are the levels of investment, innovation and corporate activity in the space.

There was over $30 billion invested in cyber security companies last year.

So it is a very well-funded space

from the investment perspective.

I'm Allison Nathan, and this is exchanges at Goldman Sachs. Amidstacks, amid political,

amid heightened geopolitical tensions

and slowing economic growth, the world is bracing for a surge in cyber attacks.

So what are companies and investors doing to prepare?

To help us understand the key issues, I'm sitting down with David Campbell who invests in growth equity companies,

many of which are cyber security startups for our asset management division,

and Marco Poletti from our Invest in Banking Division, who's been involved in recent M&A deals in the space.

David Marco, welcome to the program.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So every day it seems like we're hearing of yet another cyber attack that is wreaking havoc in some way on society.

So just give us a sense of the scope of these attacks today and how the security market has evolved.

David, maybe you can start us off.

Yeah, with economic, social infrastructure and government value moving into our computer systems,

we expect that the cyber attacks

are going to be a permanent part of our ongoing

computer life.

So how has it evolved?

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