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Welcome back to PodSafe the World. Thank you guys for tuning in this week.

The conversation I had today is about cyber warfare. We touch on attacks against Iran's nuclear program, North Korea's missiles, and Seth Rogan.

Yes, it is confusing, it is complicated, but it is enormously important because these are the weapons of the future.

And we are going to have to deal with this sooner than we hope.

I guess David Sanger, he's one of the smartest reporters out there, and I believe you are going to enjoy the conversation. So here it is.

My guest today is a gentleman named David Sanger, who is the National Security Correspondent and Senior Writer for the New York Times.

He's the author of the new book, The Perfect Weapon War, Sabotage, and Fear in the Cyber Age.

David, we have known each other a very long time. It is funny to be on the other end of interviewing you, and I'm very excited that you're here today.

Well, thanks, Tommy. We have known each other for a long time, and it's probably just as well that your listeners don't know the details.

Yes, that's accurate. It's probably pretty good that I'm no longer in government, and privy to classified information, because it seems like you have managed to dig up some fascinating, sensitive stuff in here.

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