Cyber Insecurity

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🗓️ 15 April 2017

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

As our dependence on cyberspace increases, so too will the urgency of crafting good cybersecurity policy—but the combination of knotty problems in the realms of both technology and law often makes these issues particularly difficult to iron out. In this episode of the podcast, Susan Hennessey sits down with Trey Herr, Fellow with the Belfer Center's Cyber Security Project at the Harvard Kennedy School; Jane Chong, Deputy Managing Editor of Lawfare and National Security and Law Associate at the Hoover Institution; and Robert M. Lee, nonresident national cybersecurity fellow at New America, to chat about a new book on the subject: Cyber Insecurity: Navigating the Perils of the Next Information Age. Co-edited by Trey and Richard Harrison, Director of Operations and Defense Technology Programs at the American Foreign Policy Council, and with chapters by Jane and Robert, the book seeks provides a practitioner's roadmap to cybersecurity policy.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:33.1	This idea that the public imagination has been captured in certain ways by specific topics
0:38.8	in the cyber realm, I really think of that as us sort of, we're looking where the light
0:43.5	is, right?
0:45.3	When we see something that's identifiable or potentially understandable to layman, I
0:51.5	think we seize upon it as a solution or as the, uh, dispositive way to understand the problem.
0:57.6	And so it's, it's, it's, the effects are quite disturbing.
1:01.8	But they can be interesting to look at.
1:03.0	And in the software, in the software accountability space, I would suggest we think about sort
1:07.3	of the cultural reasons why this is happening.
1:09.9	One of the reasons why we're so resistant to, uh, software accountability mechanisms
1:15.1	of any kind.
1:16.1	In fact, we shut down the conversation before people in the conversation can know what
1:19.5	we're talking about.
1:20.5	It's actually because code itself, um, is a very special currency and are, and in the
1:25.4	culture of the moment, code is the currency of innovation.
1:28.7	I'm Kondorjurusik and this is the mother of all lawfair podcasts, April 15th, 2017.
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