This is one of the things that's so weird is that they were very disparaging of Ukraine and they were talking about the massive corruption of Ukraine and how horrible it was over there.

And now all of a sudden they're looking at it like they're heroes.

Yeah, I mean, it's the same exact people, which is this is what's confusing.

This is how the West was covering Ukraine before the war is welcome to Ukraine, the most corrupt nation in Europe. That's Fox, a new Europe, Ukrainian President rule becomes increasingly corrupt in authoritarian Ukrainian President Zelensky deepens alliance with the far right.

And this is one of the things that we're hearing from people on both sides that they have a Nazi problem over there.

There's a lot of Nazis involved in Ukraine and there was something that I saw on Facebook where Facebook allowed. No, I don't know who the this is what's so confusing about you know what they call the fog of war.

It's not necessarily really the fog of war. The is the fog of the distribution of information.

Poor Joey Joe Rogan is confused. He has every right to be, but we have to help him. Why he's got eight million followers alone on Twitter and more on YouTube and elsewhere.

I'm Sebastian Gorka from a strategist, the President Trump member of the National Security Education Board today. And this is America first one on one with a very special guest.

Probably one of the most qualified in this stinking, putrid city to talk about what is happening in the Kremlin today and whether or not this is the new court, Cold War.

He is Michael Waller. He is senior analyst for strategy at the Center for Security Policy author of secret empire, the KGB in Russia today.

Mike, welcome to America first one on one. It's great to be with you, Seb. Or let's start at the big picture stuff. We've got to deal with the conspiracy theories, the tin fall,

hat or e, including on our side, sadly for conservatives. But okay, let's start with you. You were doing some interesting things during the real Cold War in the 1980s.

Tell our millions of listeners across the planet who Mike Waller is and what's he done? Oh, well started out with President Reagan.

I was a college kid in Army ROTC and the army wasn't doing anything. So I quit and joined the contras in Nicaragua.

You just drive the contras. How does the kid join the contras? Wait, did you go to the Contra Recreating Office?

No, it didn't happen. It was actually President Reagan's staff and Faith Wittlesy.

Yes, of course. So how did you know them? How did you know the administration?

So she was, you're more in blackwell.

Yeah, it's a big issue. So I was a skinny intern with a lot of hair back then and a Senate intern and Morton Blackwell worked in that office.

And he said, hey, come to what I'm called CPAC. CPAC 81. Wow.

And then he disappeared right after Reagan was elected, went on the transition team. And so I kept up with him as a youth activist.

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