Welcome to Overthink.

The podcast where two philosophy professors put big ideas in dialogue with the everyday.

I'm Ellie Anderson.

And I'm David Peña Guzman.

And hello. Hello, listeners.

David, can you tell us about the founding myth of Genesis?

You mean like Adam and Eve?

You got it. Remind us of the facts of this narrative.

Well, I mean, you have your OG humans, Adam and Eve, and they're hanging out in paradise in the Garden of Eden, watching over the animals.

They're fully naked.

And Eve meets a snake who suggests that she eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

Specifically, the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which for some reason always gets

depicted as an apple in paintings.

Yeah, that's so basic.

And I've heard some theologians argue that the term was just like fruit, a generic one,

and just apple was the one that got picked up for the iconography.

So basic.

Apples are so basic.

They're so out. They need like, I don't know, like a passion fruit.

You know, that would be much more appropriate. Yes. Or you know what my favorite fruit is lately

is a sapote. Sapote. Oh my gosh, really? Yes. I've never, okay. Ellie, major points, I've never

heard a white person, even know that fruit. Well, it is, it is thanks to my partner's

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