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The Brian Lehrer Show

CUNY Funding, Interrupted

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Denis Nash, professor of epidemiology at the CUNY Graduate School of Public Health and Health Policy, talks about the funding he lost on research related to COVID vaccine uptake.

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0:00.0

Brian Lera on WNYC, it's not just elite private colleges like Columbia and Harvard that the Trump administration is trying to defund, though that's what's mostly been in the news.

0:21.4

It's also public colleges and universities that educate mostly working class students.

0:26.5

We'll focus now on the example of CUNY, the City University of New York, specifically in the area

0:32.2

of public health.

0:33.2

This is our Health and Climate Tuesdays section of the show for this week.

0:39.2

And CUNY epidemiology professor Dennis Nash from the School of Public Health is now in their crosshairs. He's been

0:45.0

studying things like how to help people with anxiety and depression resist vaccine disinformation.

0:51.3

That grant has now been canceled. And on the climate track, he's been studying the

0:56.1

effects of extreme weather events on the medical outcomes of people with HIV, among other things.

1:02.1

Professor Nash joins me now. Thanks for coming on. Welcome back to WNYC. Thanks, Brian. Great to be here.

1:08.4

Tell us about your canceled grant in more detail than I gave.

1:11.5

What were your study?

1:13.0

Well, we had done some research in a cohort that we set up at CUNY, a national cohort,

1:18.3

that basically was tracking a bunch of different outcomes, including vaccinations,

1:23.7

once vaccines became available.

1:25.6

And we learned pretty early that there were things like

1:29.9

common mental disorders like anxiety and depression were associated with lower vaccination

1:34.9

rates, even among people who had been vaccinated previously. And we also learned that among those

1:40.8

with mental health symptoms, they were more likely to state as reasons for not being

1:46.1

up to date on vaccines, things that we knew were, you know, part of disinformation campaigns

1:51.8

and part of misinformation. And so clearly these campaigns were getting to them more than others,

1:59.0

although they were getting to everyone.

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