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ordering. Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History magazine, Britain's

best selling history magazine. Last week, the winner of the 2020 Kundal History

Prize was announced. The prize of which we are a media partner is awarded for the best English

language history books. In today's episode, our deputy editor Matt Elton caught up with the winner,

historian Camilla Townsend who received the award for her book, Fifth Sun, a new history of the

Aztecs. Matt asked Camilla about her reaction to the award and their challenges of writing global

history for a popular audience. So I'm here today with Camilla Townsend who is the winner of the

2020 Kundal History Prize. Camilla, the judges said some really lovely things about your books. They

said it was Chris Beautifully written, shows real passionate and almost expertise. How does it feel to

have one? It's rather overwhelming. I have to say, I literally almost couldn't believe it when

they first said it and even now days later, I'm still having trouble adjusting my mind to it. I

think it's really a testament not so much to me as it is to the sources themselves, these

indigenous writers of the 16th century. They did such a good job that it was easy for me to do a

good job. And that's one of the things that judges praised is your ability to use these sources and

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