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Culture Gabfest: 10 Rings, 12 Minutes, and 20 Years

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Arts, Tv & Film, Music

4.4 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week, Steve and Dana are joined by Slate senior editor, Allegra Frank. First, the panel discusses the surprising achievements of Marvel’s newest addition, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Next, the panel is joined by Slate senior editor Jeremy Stahl to talk about Spike Lee’s docuseries NYC Epicenters 9/11-2021½ and 9/11 trutherism on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. Finally, the panel discusses the frustrations of the star-studded time-loop video game 12 Minutes. In Slate Plus, the panel discusses big swings—that missed—but, still hold special places in their hearts. Email us at [email protected]. Outro music: "Break the Line" by Coma Svensson Podcast production by Cameron Drews. Production assistance by Nadira Goffe. Endorsements Dana: The indie film Short Term 12 from Shang-Chi director Destin Daniel Cretton. Also, an endorsement for flood-proof spatial planning–especially for your precious physical media. Allegra: Upon the release of the famous rapper’s newest album, Allegra’s curated playlist of Drake Songs That Don’t Suck. And a quick shout out to the everlasting enjoyment of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Steve: Christoph Reuter’s beautifully reported deep-dive on the Western presence in Afghanistan post-9/11 titled The Entirely Predictable Failure of the West’s Mission in Afghanistan for Der Spiegel. Slate Plus members get ad-free podcasts, a bonus segment in each episode of the Culture Gabfest, full access to Slate's journalism on Slate.com, and more. Sign up now at slate.com/cultureplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Stephen Mechath and this is the Slate culture gap, those 10 rings, 12 minutes and 20

0:15.2

years in addition, it's Wednesday, September 8th, 2021.

0:19.5

On today's show, Shang Chi and the Legend of the 10 Rings is the first Marvel movie to

0:23.4

feature an Asian hero and a predominantly Asian cast, it's only in theaters, it's not

0:28.7

streaming and it made a ton of money, domestic and global box office over the weekend, we

0:34.2

will discuss both aspects of it.

0:36.7

And then Spike Lee has a new HBO docu series, it's called NYC epicenters 9-11 to 2021

0:42.7

and a half.

0:43.7

Runs to about 7 and a half fish hours, we discuss both the epic love letter to his home

0:50.1

city and the controversy surrounding its original edit, which gave credence to 9-11 conspiracy

0:55.0

theories.

0:56.0

We'll be doing that with Slate's own Jeremy Stahl, who played an instrumental role in

0:59.6

having the documentary re-edited.

1:01.5

And finally, 12 minutes is a wild time loopy video game voiced by Hollywood stars.

1:08.1

We will discuss in part because Allegra Frank is on the show, Allegra, you're a senior editor

1:13.2

for culture at Slate and unlike the rest of us, you know a lot about video games.

1:18.3

I sure do, Steve, too much, arguably.

1:22.1

Never too much.

1:23.1

I have to explain that because we're fogeys, we don't doubt by that.

1:26.2

I mean, and Dana Stevens played Slate's phone credit.

1:29.0

Hey, Dana.

1:30.0

Hello, Steven.

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