Culture and Commerce: The Rio Grande Cutthroat Trout of New Mexico

The Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast

James Hathaway

Bass, Fishing, Bonefish, Wilderness, Flyfishing, Trout, How To, Steelhead, Bluegill, Fly, Orvis, Sports, Salmon, Panfish, Education, Rosenbauer

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🗓️ 19 June 2020

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

[Interview starts at 37:18]
This week, the podcast is about native trout, specifically the Rio Grande cutthroat of New Mexico. It's the story of two communities, one a small New Mexico town and the other the Taos Pueblo tribe, told by Toner Mitchell of Trout Unlimited, and Talisa Puentes Ortega, a biologist who worked on the project with the Taos Pueblo.

In the Fly Box this week, we have lots of questions, as usual, including:

Can I use Dragon Tails for trout spey?
Can I use scaled down versions of classic salmon and steelhead for trout?
Can I fix a cut in my 5-weight line?
Do you ever wish you could go back in time and fish a particular river?
Why do people often recommend different flies for tailwaters as opposed to freestone rivers?
How should I rinse my Clearwater reel after fishing in salt water?
Do creek chubs in a river indicate the absence of trout?
Should I boil my leaders to straighten them?
My buddy and I caught nice bass on small nymphs while fishing for sunfish. Is this a fluke?
What are your recommendations for wet wading gear?
I bought a hen cape and realize it's not good for dry flies. What can I use it for?
What rod should I get for going after carp, smallmouths, steelhead, and Pacific salmon?

Transcript

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0:00.0	You're going to. Hi and this is your host Tom Rosenbauer and a little bit later in this show.
0:24.0	We're going to be talking to a couple people about native trout.
0:28.0	In this case, the trout species we're talking about is the Rio Grande Cutthroat.
0:35.0	And there's been a lot of emphasis in the past few years about native trout in their native habitat.
0:43.0	And this is a story of two communities trying to restore the native Rio Grande
0:48.0	Cutthroat for a slightly different reasons.
0:50.0	One is a small New Mexico town who wants to restore the cutthroat for more or less economic reasons to boost tourism in their area after a mine closed.
1:00.0	And the other is the story of the Taos Pueblo tribe who wants to restore the
1:06.6	native fish for cultural reasons. So I think it's an interesting contrast and
1:11.0	hope you enjoy the discussion. But first let's do the flybox and if you
1:18.6	have a question for the flybox you can send me an email or you can attach a voice file to
1:25.0	podcast at Orvis.com. The first question is from Charles.
1:30.0	Thanks so much for the podcast as well as the TV show, a fantastic font of
1:36.0	knowledge and ideas. I have a quick question about using Dragon Tales. The other day
1:40.7	when I was looking around online I saw that you can get many
1:43.7	dragontails and started to wonder about their use as a fly for Trout's Bay
1:49.1	application. Do you think or maybe know if they will have good action on a swung presentation or will the effect be lost?
1:57.0	Maybe they'd work on a strip swing hybrid or with a little jigging motion on the line. Anyway, I would very much appreciate your
2:05.6	input before I spend an hour fishing a run with that fly that is unlikely to work to its full
2:11.0	potential. Are there any other modern materials or techniques you think are a
2:15.2	must try for swung optimized flies?
2:19.8	Sorry, while I'm here I have one more question. I've been tying scale down versions of simpler
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