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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

Cults You've Never Heard Of, Part II: Rise of the Zizians

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture

4.310.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Nowadays, the "C-word" can be pretty tricky. The word "cult" is usually applied by outsiders toward some group of individuals existing in opposition to a larger society. Most times, these folks are harmless -- eccentric, perhaps, but not dangerous. In fact, we often don't hear about them until they cross a threshold into violent, criminal acts. In tonight's episode, Ben, Matt and Noel explore more cults you've never heard of.

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0:00.0

From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.

0:06.5

You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

0:12.0

A production of IHeartRadie. Hello, welcome back to the show.

0:28.3

My name is Matt.

0:29.3

My name is Noel.

0:30.3

They call me, Ben.

0:31.6

We're joined, as always, with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan, and our cult leader, by the way.

0:38.1

Most importantly, you are you, you are here, that makes this, the stuff they don't want you to know.

0:45.1

Fellow fans, friends and neighbors, conspiracy realist, enthusiast of all things cultish,

0:50.1

welcome back to our continuing fascination, which we hope you share.

0:55.0

Colts you have never heard of before we begin.

0:58.4

Just here at the top, I'd love to ask you guys, I don't know if we discussed it previously,

1:03.8

but what's something that you all have personally experienced that felt at some point,

1:09.4

either in the present or in retrospect cultish.

1:13.1

I've certainly mentioned this before, so I'll just briefly say that I was once friends with a

1:16.9

bunch of Baha'i faith people, and that is classified by some as a cult, but we're going to get

1:22.7

into what that actually means, and we've talked about all this before. I thought they were lovely people.

1:27.3

I did not participate in it in that way.

1:29.1

And I found it just to be a great way of getting together with some nice folks.

1:32.5

But I'll tell you what I recently kind of associated that with is like big K-pop and J-pop, like, boy bands.

1:40.0

And just like the hand movements and all of that stuff, it feels helicultish to me.

1:45.5

Swifties as well.

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