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Today we're going to be chatting about hobbies,

why they're important, how to find time for them,

and what some of our favorites are.

So I'm curious, what are you doing these days, McKenzie?

Okay, so there is one hobby that I am actively pursuing because I can do it in my current living situation.

What's this?

And it's reading.

Oh, yes.

And it really does help me to either be able to process things or just wind down or kind of check out from

hard things that are happening in life because we kind of were talking about that before we

started recording we both are kind of coming into this recording with sort of heavy hearts like

a lot of hard life stuff going on right now and I just I kind of told

Jody like it's okay if we can bring some of that realness to the table because I'm sure a lot of

our listeners have dealt with that too like we can't always be like happy peppy yay we're doing

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