And so it just seems kind of ridiculous that we're soldering bravely forward with the system that we invented kind of before science as we now know it even existed.

Since no two people have identical fingerprints, your printing is long when considered a foolproof way of figuring the guilty.

What is it?

It's never been tested, it's never been shown to be accurate.

And one of the main reasons they were wrongly convicted in the first place was bad forensic evidence.

They have quote the best by their own admission can make such a glaring error in a high profile case when they knew the world was watching.

What is happening in the counties, in areas where we don't quote have the best of the best?

I'm Sarah Marshall and this is Your Wrong About.

Today's episode is CSI junk science. We are going to junk science and we are going with Josie Duffy Rice.

Josie Duffy Rice is a journalist writer, podcast host and consultant whose work is primarily focused on prosecutors, prisons and other criminal justice issues.

Currently she's a co-host of what a day.

She's also the creator and co-host of the podcast Justice in America. And I am so excited to get to talk to her about junk science because she is writing a book about all of this right now.

And we get to go out to coffee with her and hear about all of her most unbelievable research.

I am so excited about this episode because junk science is one of my passions as a person who lives in the world today.

I think it's an area of systemic injustice for the truth is both very obvious and sometimes funny or funny if it wasn't so sad or funny because it's all so terrible.

And Josie is someone who is qualified and passionate to tell us exactly what is going on in this world of faulty forensics.

You may notice a thread is emerging in the episodes that we've been doing recently.

We had the true crime episode with Emma Berquist last fall.

And now we're continuing into Walter crime outside of cable and super market books, true crime of the kind that is happening all around us every day.

Thank you so much for listening. Thank you for being part of this conversation. Thank you for coming out to coffee with us.

Who's the episode?

How many years did other people in authority know that forensic evidence was wrong? And how long did they know it?

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