There's no shortage of tech podcasts, but few give you a true dose of the future.

The A16Z podcast is an exception.

It takes you straight to the innovators behind new materials, data centers, self-driving cars,

even electric boats, eavesdrop on the future with the A16Z podcast.

HBR presents.

Welcome to the exponential view podcast where every week I have fascinating conversations

about the near future, I'm Azim Azar, your host.

Now, as an entrepreneur and investor, I've been an insider in the technology industry for

over 20 years.

During that time, I've observed that exponentially developing technologies are changing the

face of our economies, business models and culture in many and unexpected ways.

I wrote about those changes in my book, the exponential age and dig into them every week

in my newsletter, exponential view, and of course, on this podcast.

Now, my guest this week is behind one of the hottest projects in crypto.

Do Kwan is the co-founder and CEO of Terraform Labs.

He's behind the Terra blockchain ecosystem with the goal of building a new financial system

altogether.

Before we get into the conversation, there are a few terms that come up during our discussion

and it's worth explaining them up front.

So, DeFi means decentralized finance, financial products and services that are conducted across

peer-to-peer blockchain projects where behaviors are often governed by protocols rather than

managers.

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