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Hey everybody, it's Greg and it's my absolute pleasure to join Lindsey Graham and Steve Walters for this bonus episode.

Now this is Lindsey Graham, the podcaster, not the senator, but you may still be familiar with him if you're a fan of his other podcasts, American History Tellers and American Scandal.

He joins me today as the executive producer of his most recent podcast, 1865.

This is, Deri Say, a legit, seriously researched hard-hitting audio drama, and its historical fiction done right.

Steve Walters is a lead writer and co-creator of 1865. It's his and Eric Archil's brilliant prose that bring this audio drama to life.

Lindsey, Steve, thanks for being here.

Hey Greg, thanks for having me.

Greg, yeah, it's a pleasure being here.

For those who haven't heard of 1865, it tells a very believable tale of the intrigue, backstabbing and politicking that follows after John Wilkes Booth assassinates Abraham Lincoln at the end of the Civil War.

As a storytelling historian myself, I love it.

And the fact that we are now entering this same era on HTDS makes it a great time to go deep with these two history podcasting legends.

Now this episode is also being released on 1865's feed, so please note, I'm not going to lead the discussion.

Lindsey will.

We're going to hash out John Wilkes Booth's heinous actions, what reconstruction might have looked like Hadlein can live, and what to make of war secretary Edwin Stanton's actions under President Johnson.

So with no further ado, I'll hand the speaking stick to Lindsey. Here we go.

Coming up are the final three episodes of 1865. And they're sort of a prequel of sorts to the events of them, the first 13 episodes. How would you describe them Steve?

Well, where is the main thrust of the first 13 episodes of 1865 really deals with Lincoln Secretary of War Edwin and Stanton and the fight for reconstruction.

The last three episodes, they really are a prequel. They get into sort of the question of what makes Amanda monster, what drove John Wilkes Booth to commit one of the most horrific acts in American history.

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