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The Documentary Podcast

Crossing Divides: The exchange

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Casey Spradley is a beef rancher in New Mexico – and runs a sustainable business with a responsible approach to irrigating the land. Thousands of miles away in Free State South Africa, Tracy Khothule Marobobo is a beef farmer, on land redistributed as part of a post-apartheid settlement. She now faces the challenge of establishing a business in an increasingly difficult climate. Open minded and willing to share their knowledge, the pair begin a digital dialogue that spans continents. Two countries, two women, both with an eye on learning more about each other and their approach to farming land.

Transcript

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0:00.0

What can two farmers on opposite sides of the world have in common?

0:07.0

This is the exchange, part of crossing divides on the BBC World Service. Our two farmers have never met,

0:15.0

but they've agreed to find out more about each other

0:18.0

by swapping voice messages on their smartphones.

0:32.0

Hi, my name is Casey Spradley and I'm a wife, a mother and a rancher from the United States of America. My name is Tracy Marobobo.

0:35.0

I am a farmer in South Africa,

0:39.0

Free State Province.

0:41.0

I deal with production for the beef my kit.

0:48.0

My husband and I have a cattle ranch on the same land that my greatparents came to nearly a hundred years ago.

0:55.0

We are the fourth generation to live and raise animals on this piece of land.

1:00.0

And we hope that someday that our kids can come home and also raise animals as well.

1:07.0

In South Africa, I think post-apartheid, there have been a lot of programs implemented by the government to distribute farmland to farmers,

1:19.3

most especially black farmers, because remember the system before could not allow us to own farms.

1:26.8

So in 2004 my father and all my siblings were fortunate enough to get small portion of

1:35.3

land I think it was less than 100 hectares so this is where we've been farming

1:41.6

formerly but we could not get more than 30 to 40 head of

1:47.8

cattle on the farm so we've been in that business since then that That's how I managed to go to school. My dad used to

1:56.2

rare the cattle so that he could be able to provide for the family. Then in 2016 we managed to acquire 548 hectares of land and this was acquired

2:10.0

through the proactive land acquisition program.

2:14.0

So how it works is that the land belongs to the government.

2:18.4

Our state is the one that owns the land.

2:21.1

Then they rented out to us. I am breeding with Bonsmara breed. So this breed was invented

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