Crisis Series #39: Are Novus Ordo Priests & Bishops Validly Ordained?

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🗓️ 28 August 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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both ceremonies – does that make this sacrament invalid? Are we in the midst of a crisis where all the priests and bishops who were ordained using this rite are not actually priests and bishops? To understand this, we’ll need to look at the form and matter of sacraments and answer a fundamental question – can the Church change the form of sacraments at all? And if the Church is allowed to make these changes, what needs to remain in order for a sacrament to be valid?

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0:00.0	You're listening to the SSPX podcast, and welcome to episode 39 of the Crisis in the Church series.
0:08.5	Today's episode is all about ordinations and Episcopal consecrations in the new right.
0:13.9	There were changes made to both ceremonies in the last 50 years, so we'll answer the question,
0:19.4	does that make this sacrament invalid? Or put another
0:23.3	way, are we in the midst of a crisis where all the priests and bishops who are ordained using
0:27.4	this right are not actually priests and bishops? In order to understand this, we'll need to look
0:31.9	at the form and matter of sacraments and answer a fundamental question, can the church change the
0:37.4	form of sacraments at all?
0:39.2	And if the church is allowed to make these changes, what needs to remain in order for a sacrament to be valid?
0:45.1	Are there very specific words that must be said no matter what?
0:48.7	Father McFarland is here this week to answer these questions for us now on the SSPX podcast.
1:00.9	And we're welcoming Father McFarlane the prior of Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix, Arizona.
1:04.9	Back again. Hi, Father. How are you? Good. How are you and Andrew? Good to see you.
1:08.6	Doing well. Thank you. Good to see you too. And we are talking today about the validity of priestly ordinations and Episcopal ordinations in the Novosordo.
1:18.6	As we've been talking about for the last two, three dozen episodes, everything changed.
1:24.6	Everything changed in the Second Vatican Council and the reforms afterwards.
1:29.3	And the sacraments have two, including Holy Orders and including the Episcopal consecrations.
1:35.3	So there are some doubts, there have been some doubts that have been put forward about both the ordinations and the consecrations.
1:42.3	Are they valid? Are they not? So where do we start
1:46.1	with this discussion, Father? Well, I would say we can talk about who brings it up, who challenges
1:52.7	the validity of those ordinations. And you find it particularly among the set of a cantis that we've been talking about in the series lately, right?
2:03.6	To support their claim that the members of the hierarchy have been deprived their offices on account of heresy, they point to changes in the sacraments and say,
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