You're listening to the SSPX podcast and welcome to episode 34 of the Crisis in the Church series.

Today we're joined again by Don Tranquilo to discuss one of the more hot-button issues of the entire traditional Catholic movement,

Cet of Acontism, or the idea that the pope is not the pope, or at least does not have the authority to be the pope.

This flows directly from the last episode we did on obedience and its limits,

but it takes it to the next step entirely.

There are several different categories or theories within the set of a contest structure.

We'll discuss a couple of the most widespread ideas,

but broadly, they all share a single disturbing commonality,

that those who hold these ideas will necessarily open the door

to the wholesale destruction of the hierarchical Catholic Church.

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Now, we'll turn to our conversation with Dawn Tranquil.

Welcome back to the SSPX podcast in our next episode in the Crisis in the Church series.

And happy to welcome back, Don Tranquilo.

Hello, Father, how are you today?

Hi, it nice to see you again. Fine, thank you.

You as well. Very, very good to have you back for this second time. And last episode that we had you on,

about five episodes ago, we were speaking about collegiality. Today we're speaking about something

that is related in that it has to do with the papacy.

And you had said that a lot of the, or some of the topic, some of the main points that we

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