Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of the Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot

School of Theology Biola University.

And I'm your co-host Sean McDow, Professor of Apologetics at Talbot School

theology Biola University.

We're here today with a political science professor at

Biota University, Dr. Scott Waller.

Scott also serves as the chair of Biola University's Religious Freedom Task Force to talk about

a couple of cases that were handed down, one in Canada and one in the United States, in late spring, early summer of 2018 Scott I think it's fair to say

that there's there is this is a good news bad news type of situation with these two

cases so let's take let's take the good news first type of situation with these two cases.

So let's take the good news first.

What's commonly known as the Nifla case,

short for the National Institutes of Family Life Advocacy, case that was filed here in California decided in June of 2018 by the United States Supreme Court.

Tell our listeners first, what was this case about and what specifically

were what was Nifla challenging about the law in California.

Yeah, it actually was, this case involved a legal challenge to a piece of legislation that was passed by the California legislature called the California

California reproductive freedom accountability

comprehensive care and transparency act so since that's too long to

could you make that title a little longer yeah it's actually shortened called

the fact act and the acronym Yeah, it's actually shortened called the Fact Act.

And the acronym is an attempt to capture

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