Hello, it's Andrea Dunlop, and I have a special treat for you while we are in the final week of waiting for season 4 of nobody should believe me.

So today I'm going to be sharing my conversation with a fellow true crime podcaster.

I love Madison McGee from Ice Cold Case.

So as ever, if you want more for me and if you want to get the first several

episodes of season four in your feed next week you can subscribe on Apple

podcast or on Patreon and if that's not an, rating and reviewing the show always really helps, as does spreading

the word on social media or wherever you are chatting with folks. In 2002, when Madison McGee was six years old, her father, J.C. was murdered in his home. The crime was never solved, and in 2020,

Madison, who at that time was working as a television producer in LA, decided to pick up the case and try to get to the bottom of

what happened to her father all those years ago. She then launched her show

Ice Cold Case in the

space space in the summer of 2023. As you can imagine, the stakes of this investigation could not be higher.

And in the year that it's been on the air,

the story has taken some extremely dramatic turns.

I started listening to this show last year after I met

Madison at CrimeCon and I have been hooked ever since. I think you are going to love this one.

So I'm going to give you a little taste of the show with the trailer and then we will head right into the interview. Enjoy.

We didn't tell her the truth.

This man died for no reason at all. They let it go. They let

him die. But he knew somebody was going to get him. So it's scary. Sure. There's no code of ethics out there. I want to find the man who

merge your death. I've never really felt right about that.

This is pretty raw shit that I really don't really want to even talk about.

I really don't know how. I want to tell you. I just need to tell you the truth.

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